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the people in his consulate and benghazi. on top of that, and distracting from it, is this sort of side show. explain how you put it together, all that happened today. >> first i want to say to the families of the four americans who died as well as american diplomats, this is a very tough day. we need them to be safe and being able to perform their jobs. the arab spring is going to involve the u.s. but also diplomatic efforts. it's a very tough day for america. in that context, i think that governor romney has every right and obligation to criticize the current administration's foreign policy but to go out without knowing all of the facts and to go off at a time when if he had something to say he could have said it at the white house. i think it's a mistake politically. in the long run i think it's a mistake politically. it cuts him off from most republicans on capitol hill who, as howard said, have not been outspoken and i think it's the wrong thing to do. he's right to criticize and make points. if he has good points to make about how it's a failure of the president's leadership, let him d
/11 anniversary retribution of the united states because they new ambassador stevens was in benghazi. americans should have faith that the libyan examiner is very much worth pursuing. >> ambassador ginsberg, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> up next, just 53 days to the election. of course, all this is getting politicized. we'll bring it down many the spin cycle next on this friday, september 14th. ♪ ♪ i can do anything ♪ i can do anything today ♪ i can go anywhere ♪ i can go anywhere today ♪ la la la la la la la [ male announcer ] dow solutions help millions of people by helping to make gluten free bread that doesn't taste gluten free. together, the elements of science and the human element can solve anything. solutionism. the new optimism. i'm also a survivor of ovarian a writand uterine cancers. and the human element can solve anything. i even wrote a play about that. my symptoms were a pain in my abdomen and periods that were heavier and longer than usual for me. if you have symptoms that last two weeks or longer, be brave, go to the doctor. ovarian and uterine cancers are
have available to us today, our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo. which were prompted of course by the video. >> there's a caveat there, she said the fbi was still investigating. but the thought was it was a spontaneous reaction. a couple of days before that the libyan president said al qaeda was behind the attack. and days later, the president's spokesman, jay carney says this, it is, i think self-evident that what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. well if it was self-evident. then why didn't the president come out and call this exactly what it was, an act of terror on the anniversary of 9/11? >> well this is an event of great interest obviously to the public, to the news media. information was being provided reeled time. obviously you're going to know more, two weeks after an event, than a week after an event. and as ambassador rice was, that was the information from the intelligence c
americans, including the u.s. ambassador to libya. our nbc reporter is in benghazi as police close in on the consulate attackers. >> reporter: a team of fbi investigators has arrived here in benghazi. they're gogt to now begin sifting through the rebel and ashes at the u.s. consulate to identify any clues or evidence that may help them in identifying who is behind the attack that killed the u.s. ambassador and three other americans. we also understand that the libyan government for their part is cooperating with the u.s. intelligence agencies and other agencies involved in the investigation. the libyan government believes that this was a preplanned attack, that this was not a spontaneous outburst of violence as some have suggested. so far they have four individuals in their custody. they say several more are under surveillance. they are trying to see whether these individuals have any important information that can benefit the american investigation. meanwhile, u.s. intelligence assets including unmanned aerial drones are keeping an eye above the skies of benghazi and eavesdropping
of militants in a place like benghazi that go against the embassy or going against the embassy and ambassadors of the embassy itself in care iro, be egypt. >> once again, the guy doesn't know what he's talking about or he's 25 years out of date. it was a product of the cold war when we had to have the ability to fight the russians on the plains of europe at the same time. that cost an awful lot of money. but we're facing a very different sort of threat now, a meta more fis threat. al qaeda, terrorism, and so on. and so the military has abandoned the two war strategy and, you know, obviously romney wants to go -- see, he still thinks that the soviet union exists and is the greatest threat we have out there. i mean, it's really remarkable that a guy who is as smart as he is is so misinformed. >> nia-malika henderson, could it be a strong intellectual footing in the cold war scenarios, they really do have a more -- i hate to say this, but an intellectual comfort between us and the russians and never really adapted to the situation where no matter how many troops we had in ben benghazi, you can't
broke the news that the ambassador in libya was killed when protesters stormed that embassy in benghazi. this one of those strange, tragic, comic affairs. comic only in the political intrigue and perhaps stupidity here of mitt romney. >> yeah, well, this is what happens politically when you're a candidate without the facts and with few friends. he's maybe tied to the pole but he doesn't have close friends in the politics business. he got the fact wrong. it's a classic case of jumping out ahead of a fast-moving story, chasing what you think is some kind of immediate political gain. he's going after evangelicals and some other people, including some more -- some of the jewish voters who may be concerned in this sort of zianic phobic -- >> explain how he got the key fact wrong. >> he got the key fact wrong in that the cairo embassy was not responding to the people scaling the walls. the original statements by cairo embassy were long before there was any action at the embassy. >> right. >> it was a perfectly fair and judicious statement. >> to simply stay to stop putting out the movies. >>
assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video. what we think then transpired in benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. they came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are readily available in post-revolutionary libya, and they escalated into a much more violent episode. >> nbc is live for us in benghazi, libya. let's talk about the u.s. officials who are on the ground now. how many of the suspects are in custody and are there any leads on other suspects? >> alex, we had the chance yesterday to speak to libya's president, head of the general national council here. he told us he did agree with ambassador rice on one point. he believes this was a sinister, preplanned attack. this was the hallmark of foreign militants who had come into libya to exploit the security vacuum here and planned a very specific attack against the united
developing news right now. we go benghazi, libya where the u.s. government is making a big push to investigate the killing of the u.s. annual bass door and three deaths there earlier this week. the libya president had will this to say when asked who was behind the attack. >> we have assumptions. we have some information.o say d the attack. >> we have assumptions. we have some information.say wh the attack. >> we have assumptions. we have some information. and on that information that we have, we will go after the perpetrators. >> ayman is on the phone with us. what else did the libya president have to say? >> reporter: well, really programs the most interesting information that came out about those perpetrators was that they are not all libyan and that certainly comes as a surprise. one of the things that he said was that the information the libyan authorities have is that in fact foreigners were involved in the planning and execution of this attack. and one of the reasons that comes as a huge surprise to many is that while the libyan government has struggled to establish law an
opinions on whether the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi was premed cate tated. >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a response tains you reaction of what had transpired hours before in cairo, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facilities in cairo which were prompted by the video. >> the way these perpetrators acted and moved, this leaves us with no doubt that this was preplanned, predetermined. >> nbc's ayman mohyeldin is live in libya. two wildly differing accounts as to what these attacks and the source of, you know, who executed them. i guess, in terms of the intel that you have over there, do we have any further information regarding whether they were premeditated or not? just how much this individual was the had thing that sort of set off the blaze of muslim protests across the muslim world? >> well, at this particular stage it seems it's a little bit of a hybrid between the two different accounts that we heard there between the u.s. ambassador as well as the libyan president, and they're not necessarily contradict
, white house press secretary for jay carney for the first time called the benghazi attack a terrorist attack. secretary of state hillary clinton, i want to play sound from her today, what she had to say about the after-action report on benghazi and libya. let's play that and talk about it. >> i am launching an accountability review board that will be chaired by ambassador thomas pickering. >> just by way of context, thomas pickering, a former u.n. ambassador, former russia ambassador as well. jonathan, this in some ways is what's next here in libya, turned into a political football last week. there's clearly foreign policy implications in how we manage ourselves in this tumultuous time going on here. >> in these tumultuous times in these countries where in the arab spring they rose up and revolted. clearly it's been determined by the obama administration, very important to get to the bottom of what really happened in benghazi. as we know, three americans were killed including ambassador christopher stevens at the consulate in benghazi. so there are a lot of questions that have to be a
. now members of congress from both parties are demanding answers. on the ground in benghazi, investigators can't even get to the scene. nbc's mike viqueira is joining us from the white house with more on this. mike, how big a deal is this reversal? >> reporter: well, it's very controversial and potentially a big deal. the question all along is ever since those september 11th attacks what caused them, what was the motivation for the people who killed four americans including the american ambassador. and at the beginning as everybody is well aware at this point, the white house insisted that these were spontaneous demonstrations, a reaction to that anti-islamic film, much like the demonstrations that had happened just hours earlier in cairo and subsequently swept through the muslim world from the middle east to indonesia. they denied that there was any terrorism link involved. from the beginning, republicans and other critics have questioned that. they said that the president and the administration have not wanted to admit a terror link in an election year around 9/11. they sa
americans killed in benghazi this week will return. the internet brings the world together also gives anyone with a computer the ability to light a fuse and ignite a tragic chain of events. joining us from washington, david wood, senior military correspondent with "the huffington post." always great to see you. >> hi, alex. >> these are certainly changing and tragic times. that news that the president and the secretary of state will be greeting the remains of chris stevens, the ambassador to libya, i think it is with heavy hearts the nation welcomes back his body under tragic circumstances. want to talk about sort of the larger picture here which is just how this thing started sort of, you know, in one corner of the world and has spread rapidly throughout the muslim world from africa to southeast asia. you are a military and defense expert. what do you make of the situation in terms of how we protect american interests overseas at the same time accounting for the fact that we are a country with free speech and civil liberties are a big part of what makes america. >> you know what word i've b
:00, there are reports of shooting and smoke rising at the consulate in benghazi, 800 miles away. at 7:51 p.m., reuters reports at least one american was dead at our consulate in benghazi. we now know the romney campaign was discussing the events unfolding in the middle east throughout the day. as governor romney flew from nevada to florida, his top foreign policy and political advisers held a conference call to discuss what they would say about the crisis. well, when romney landed, they showed him a statement and he approved it. it said, i'm outraged by the attacks on american diplomatic missions in libya and egypt and by the death of an american consulate worker in benghazi. it's disgraceful that the obama administration's first response was not to condemn the attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks. the campaign did exactly what mitt romney promised his high-dollar donors he would do in may. he attempted to capitalize on a foreign crisis. look at the statement again. "it's disgraceful that the obama administration's first response was not to condemn att
and available on youtube. >> would you call the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi an act of terrorism? >> i have no doubt about that. and it's a preplanned act of terrorism directed against american citizens. >> do you think the movie had anything to do with this attack on the consulate? >> not on this attack. not on this attack. it has nothing to do with this attack. >> and yesterday white house press secretary told reporters traveling on air force one, "it's the case that it's our view as an administration, the president's view, that it was a terrorist attack." it's the first explicit acknowledgement that the president believes the libyan attack was an act of terror. secretary of state hillary clinton speaking at the united nations on wednesday became the highest ranked official to publicly say there was a link between the attack and al qaeda. >> for some time al qaeda and other groups have launched attacks and kidnappings into neighboring countries and they are working with other violent extremists to undermine the democratic transitions under way in north africa as we tragically s
answers. on the ground in benghazi investigators can't even get to the scene. nbc's mike viqueira is joining us from the white house with more. good saturday morning to you. >> good morning. >> how big is this reversal? >> it's a very big deal. from the beginning, alex, ever since those attacks on september 11th in benghazi, libya, that left four americans dead, 9 questions not only have been how could this have happened but did the administration shy away, intentionally mislead the american public about the involvement of terrorists, and in particular elements tied to al qaeda. now there are many republicans who say the administration, including the president, specifically said that this was tied to that anti-islam video that played on youtube that sparked demonstrations, make no mistake, worldwide across the region in muslim countries from the middle east all the way to indonesia. and, in fact, the administration spokesman, the president's spokesman jay carney had said that explicitly in the immediate days afterwards. then the explanations began to shift a little bit. susan rice
particularly in libya and egypt. he wrote what's happen inning cairo and benghazi is a case of political opportunism by salafist islamic extrooemists who are unhappy with the success that more moderate islamist and secular in egypt and libya have had in building political support. do you agree with that statement? >> absolutely. there's a lot of intraislamic competition like the muslim brotherhood trying to take leadership in the arab world and coming to the political rise in egypt and spreading. and also the more extremely actors who also have more space to operate in the post-arab spring world. there are other broader, strategic exploitations taking place in response to this video. egypt is a really good case study for that. just looking at how many different players are nervous about the transformation with egypt with much of the old guard retiring and now the islamists asserts themselves. you have christians very nervous about that. you have elements of the military not happy with the situation. here lies an opportunity to try to make the muslim brotherhood-led government appear more
kerry is demanding he tell the truth about benghazi. every time you turn around, underneath this zone of the great speaker there is a president with massive unemployment. they just downgraded the economy for the last three months yesterday. the manufacturing index is collapsing. and so i'm just suggesting -- >> this benghazi story by the way is a huge story. right now dee dee myers the fbi won't even go into benghazi because it is so dangerous which leads you to wonder why they didn't listen to warnings before the attack and before our u.s. ambassador was killed. this is one of those issues and i think charles krauthammer said it perfectly today in "the washington post" that if mitt romney actually knew how to put forth an argument. >> right. >> he could really be grabbing attention. >> one of the problems was he jumped out ahead of this and politicized it in the hours immediately after the attack which discredited him in the media term as a spokesman for the other side. >> it was -- krauthammer said he could have done it so much better. >> and established himself as an alternative vo
benghazi being attacked and not about the pocketbook issues that people over their breakfast tables every morning talk about how they have to meet the challenge challenges. >> well, the argument could be made after the attack in benghazi, perhaps governor romney could have used that as a opportunity to make a swoo sweeping declaration of his foreign policy. >> hindsight is 20/20. >> that was two weeks ago. >> well, look, we can look back and make judgments on that and also make judgments on how president obama handled that. in the middle of what should have been a fog of intelligence information coming in, they come out to make unequivocal statements of how an attack on 9/111 had nothing to do with al qae qaeda, and put it this way, it is something that if they weren't simple incompetence, it is simple disingenuously. >> and you are not going to acknowledge that the romney campaign may have fumbled it a little bit as well. >> look, i think that we now know that both sides would have liked to have handle it differently, but what is important to note there is that, yes, governor romney has
in benghazi bumps in the road to hedging on whether egypt san ally, to demoting israel as merely one of our allies to speaking at the u.n. and not meeting with my diplomats, which chuck todd called odd this morning. tell me. i want someone that i trust like you, howard, to look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that those are not gaffes, that those are not embarrassing? >> well, i'm looking at you in the camera eye. >> all right. >> and i'm telling you that they are gaffes, and they are embarrassments. i think the president needs to be held to account for them, and i think the whole question of security arrangements in benghazi in particular in libya in general, i think the state of our knowledge, the state of our intelligence, our human intelligence in those countries is very much open to question. i think some of the president's assumptions about the arab spring are open to question. i think they're very important issues that the president needs to deal with and should be asked about. unfortunately for mitt romney, to take it back to the presidential campaign, this campaign i
." the more we're finding out about benghazi, the more it looks like a gross security failure. and you know, something the romney campaign told me, this is the biggest mistake we made on libya. if you give the media a chance to talk about politics or policy, they'll talk about politics every time. and we get out in front of it, so all everybody talked about those first few days was the politics of it. but the policy looks, willie, more and more like a gross security failure. you've got so many warnings coming in and so many warnings that were ignored. now the administration, the lead of "the new york times" saying that it may have been an al qaeda hit. but "the times" said there's no evidence on that. mitt romney, again, that's another -- it's a political blunder. and they've made too many of them. >> andrea, we had secretary of state hillary clinton herself yesterday saying we now believe there is an al qaeda link to the attack on the consulate in libya. >> in moments we were told by state department officials she didn't mean to say that, that that wasn't what she was saying. she was on a
that he's above political partisanship in a situation that's so serious as what happened in benghazi and cairo. he dropped the ball here. he had an opportunity to show that he could be a statesman and he failed in. >> robert, some republican congressional candidates seem to be softening the patterson tone. they are talking about bipartisanship as they head towards elections many believe republican lawmakers are responsible for the grid lock in congress. 44% of those who responded in a "new york times"/cbs news poll said that the republicans are at fault for the difficulties in getting legislation through. republican candidates hearing these frustrations are they adjusting their strategy? >> it appears that way, craig. look, at the end of the day you have to stand your ground and stand up for what you believe in. a lot of republicans have been saying in terms of the out of control spending and so forth. but they're also there to do a job and clearly work with democrats as well. but that's a double-edged sword, right? democrats need to work with republicans as well. it's like the firin
people have been arrested in connection with the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi last week. that's the attack, of course, that left four americans dead, including the u.s. ambassador to libya. >>> this morning israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu was on the sunday shows insisting he's not trying to get involved in american politics. >> governor romney, for a year, and he said it in his convention speech, has said, quote, president obama has thrown allies like israel under the bus. do you agree or disagree with governor romney's charge? it's a serious charge. >> well, you're trying to get me into the american election, and i'm not going to do that. >> but last week benjamin netanyahu caused quite the stir when he called for a red line to be set against iran, essentially military action to stop the nuclear program before it produces a weapon. i want to bring back nia-malika henderson from "the washington post." bill, i'm going start with you because your name i can get. we know that benjamin netanyahu has known mitt romney for years. you met with the prime minister before. wh
in benghazi and who was behind the attack that left four americans dead, including 52-year-old ambassador chris stevens, widely regarded as one of the most popular and successful american envoys in the region. and of course, sean smith, a father of two and foreign service information management officer. last night campaigning in nevada, the president warned there will be consequences for the perpetrators of the attack. >> as for the ones we lost last night, i want to assure you, we will bring their killers to justice. no act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the united states of america. >> that was the president at a campaign rally last night. again, today in egypt, there are hundreds of protesters and they've clashed with security forces outside the u.s. embassy in cairo while president obama went out of his way yesterday to re-affirmfies with the fledgling libyan government. did he not say a word about egypt all day until he was asked by telemundo whether the second largest recipien
.s. embassy in benghazi, including the ambassador christopher stevens. this is our diplomats killed in action. i remember the return at andrews in 1998 when president clinton and hillary clinton in august of 1998 received the coffins unloaded from kenya and tan sa nia from our two u.s. embassies there. >> i spent the vast majority of my life talking about politics and the political consequences of things that happen. i always say to people it is a worthwhile reminder that there are consequences to things like this. and they do happen in a political context. we should never lose sight if you're a democratic or republican or independent or whatever you want to be, people have lost their lives. i think the interview on "rock center" with the ambassador's sister really drives that home. these are lives and real consequences. the politics are the politics. they're going to exist, let's not forget that other piece that matter more. >> our condolences to all. >>> that is it for this edition and for a very difficult week in u.s. foreign policy. my colleague tamron hall has a look at what's next on "n
to a report, an american at benghazi, libyan is dead after an attack by armed mob. so far this has not been confirmed by nbc news. back to "hardball ". >>> when congressman ryan looked into that tv camera and attacked president obama's medicare savings as, quote, the biggest, he stopped to slide into depression, we made the long road to recovery and we've got the building blocks of a modern, new, different economy. that was former president bill clinton campaigning for president obama today. fresh off his show-stopping performance at the democratic convention, the big dogs out on the campaign trail. tomorrow he's in orlando and the new york times report potential trips down the road to ohio, wisconsin, iowa, nevada and new hampshire. joanne reed is managing editor of rio.com. here's president obama paying tribute to his new best surrogate. >> president clinton made the case in the way only he can. you know, somebody -- somebody e-mailed me after his speech and said, you need to appoint him secretary of explaining stuff. >> joy-ann, there you have it. he not only has charisma and a high numb
.s. consulate in benghazi that killed four americans. the top libyan security physician said the attack was possibly aided by infiltrators who knew the route that consulate staff was trying to use to escape. now, two americans killed in the attack were identified thursday as two former navy s.e.a.l.s. tyrone woods of portland, oregon, former military veteran and father of two and glen doherty from massachusetts. back at home mitt romney made sulgs jobs on foreign policy. campaigning in battleground virginia, romney offered this message. >> american leadership, the middle east needs american leadership and i intend to be a president that provides the leadership that america respects. >> and romney was relatively measured responding to this barb of the president concerning an interviewing on telemundo. >> i have observed there's a tendency to shoot without aim. >> asked about it, romney chose no, sir to swing back. >> the exact same conclusion the white house reached. the statement was inappropriate. that's why they backed away from it as well. >> but the romney campaign has escalated the
about first of all what happened. the libya attacks in benghazi. there are suggestions that these were well-coordinated attacks as opposed that which first was reported that it was just a mob attack. what's the intel on that? >> it is -- it was hastily planned but it was planned, nonetheless. all the evidence points to that. small arms, automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades, wielded by soldiers who were properly trained in what looked like a tactical attack. so it was planned. i think the consulate was a target of opportunity. there's no doubt about it. >> so was it well defended? >> well, it wasn't defended at all. which is -- and the state department has a great deal to answer for. there's no reason why, in a place like libya, that hasn't finished with a violent revolution, where a consulate that's relatively isolated should not be -- should not be defended at all. no, that's -- there's going to be an investigation. there's going to be a lot of finger pointing. but the state department has a lot to answer for in that regard. >> well, indeed, there's also a response that has
the attack in benghazi. was it sparked by the protests or was it preplanned? >> the point is you can make assumptions. we do not yet have indication that it was preplanned or premeditated. >> and yet on the same day at a senate hearing, a member of the obama administration, the director of the national counterterrorism center gave the most detailed picture of this we've heard yet. seems to contradict what jay carney said. >> they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy. what we don't have at this point is specific intelligence that there was a significant advanced planning or coordination for this attack. >> senators including susan collins were not satisfied with that answer and that version of events. >> i have come to the opposite conclusion and agree with the president of libya that this was a premeditated, planned attack. i just don't think that people come to protest equipped with heavy weapons. >> what we may be seeing is an attempt between opportunistic aspirational attack that maybe that's what intelligence officials believed, al qaeda in north africa was t
for his behavior after what happened in benghazi including a lot of conservatives who thought he jumped the gun. >> yes, chris, but why don't we talk now because that was two weeks ago. >> you brought it up. >> a president of the united states, last night, said this is a bump in the road who spent two weeks sending out his u.s. ambassador all about a video. is he still clueless as he is on foreign policy that he doesn't even understand that we have anti-american protests in the muslim world? they're angry. we now have an egyptian president giving us orders as to how we are to act. this is an america that is no longer has the respect of the world. and that's what barack obama promised us. he said he's going to turn it around. he's failed and he's calling the death of americans a bump in the road. i would say it's outrageous, and it's time for the national media to start talking about that. >> bay buchanan, always good to have you on the program. thank you very much. >> thanks, chris. >> back to our original point, alex, which is that we are going to be hearing -- and especially with the
killed in benghazi. ryan calling the white house's response quote slow and confused. >>> they first said that it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know it was a planned terrorist attack. if this was one tragic incident, that would be a tragedy in and of itself. the problem is it's part of a bigger picture of the fact that the obama foreign policy is unraveling literally before our eyes on our tv screens. >>> this morning, the obama campaign defended its reaction to events in libbia the campaign's senior adviser said the white house was transparent in its response and dealt with new facts as they amerge. >> as the director of national intelligence said on friday, that was the original information that was given to us. what we don't need is a president or an administration that shoots first and asks questions later. at this point this is what we know and we are thoroughly investigating and that's what exactly what you should do. >>> new this hour, nbc news learned a short time ago that mitt romney is running through a full mock debate this afternoon at an event center in bo
gunmen staged a military style assault on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. the u.s. ambassador, christopher stevens and three other americans died in the assault carried out with guns, mortars and grenades. protests erupted in other countries in the middle east, north africa and the pacific rim with the most violent in cairo, egypt. they are blaming america for a film they say insulted the prophet mohammed. joining me is mona. i want to ask you for viewers that have been watching at home seeing the images. is this a tinderbox that is about to get worse. is this a growing movement or is this sort of something that came up by now is largely over? >> first, i would like to start by sending out my condolences to the family and loved ones of the four americans killed in libya and of the other people of various nationalities killed yesterday. at least 14 people were killed. each and every one of those deaths was utterly senseless without any reason or purpose. i think what you are seeing is a kind of i hope a dying cry of a very desperate right wing. we have very sensitive timing in
that this is not first and foremost a political story, this is likely a story that happened in benghazi. certainly it isn't great for them, on the other hand, president obama does have a strong record on terrorism, one that the public has appreciated and has shown up in the polls for quite some time. i think it's hard to argue that a foreign policy event coming this late in the campaign is going to trump the white house. >> we want to go to some early voting nowing going with you and the dnc, kicked off their early voting bus tour in iowa. ohio residents, they can start early voting day after tomorrow in ohio. it seems like the democrats have an early ground game this morning. >> it seems that republicans on election day, it could be as much as 40% of the electorate that weighs in before actually election day. it's one of the interesting parts of this campaign is figuring out if it's going to change the message, if it's going to change the message of the campaign. it's going to be more states and more people than it has been, in both absen tent and voting than it has been -- >> i do want to take a look a
at the u.s. consulate in libya that killed four americans. >> reporter: since the benghazi traj tragedy, your opponent has attacked you as being weak on national defense and weak on foreign policy. he said you need to be more aggressive in iran, you haven't done enough to support the revolt in syria and that our friends don't know where we stand and our enemies think we're weak. >> well, let's see what i've done since i've came into office. i said i'd end the war in iraq. i did. i said that we'd go after al qaeda. they have been decimated in the fatah. that we'd go after bin laden. he's gone. so i've executed on my foreign policy, and it's one that the american people largely agree with. you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> we're going to get to iran as well. the candidates were asked about that. but quickly, richard, on this question, explain the fine line the president is walking here, answering it. >> well, the president is out there defending his record. can i make a slightly related point on foreign policy? what's interes
other americans. a crowd attacked the base of an islamic militia in benghazi in support of the u.s., they were angry about the murder of the four americans. in fact the protesters drove the militia out of the city. joining me now is general jack jacobs, it's good to have you here. as we talk about these protesters driving out this militia group and we can see the anger that they are now organizing as a country against these people that killed our four americans, this militia was a militia that we were originally these militia were working with the ouster of gadhafi, correct? >> yes, revolutions are really messy things. it was more than just a protest. as you said they drove these guys out. and the crowds actually burned down several headquarters of several different militant groups. ostensibly these were spontaneous reactions to the death of ambassador stephens. we have to remember that there's a contest for dominance in this area of libya. one way to get rid of the guys who are opposed to you, make your life a little bit difficult if they gain a foothold is to drive them out. th
at benghazi and the embassies around the world, the question is why does that small group of muslims, radical muslims, hate sinus >> they want power. i think it's really a struggle for power, something that's going on in nearly every country across the region. in libya, you have a huge number of people who are out with signs professing their support for not just chris stevens who lost his life, you know, supporting peace and our relationship, but you have them saying, look, we apologize. same thing in several other countries. many of the leaders have expressed the same sentiments. and so i think we need to understand that as our country has local dynamics, these countries have local dynamics, too. and you have an emerging democratic movement. you also have these old regime loyalists, soccer thugs in the case of egypt, and even these, you know, more religious extreme elements where they're jockeying for power. >> what is it about america? why do they attack so violently, these groups? >> america is a symbol, right? america is a symbol. look who's keeping it up now. nasrallah in lebanon saying
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